Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 5:13 PM
John Kerry missed 64% of his votes in the Senate last year and has missed more than 80% of them this year. If John Kerry isn't bothering to do the job he has, wouldn't it be a mistake to give him a promotion?
One could plausibly argue that Kerry's full-time job since early 2003 was running for president -- but he could have resigned if that were the case. The lead paragraph in this Reuters story doesn't make me feel any better about Kerry's posturing on Iraq, either:
Democratic candidate John Kerry, whose campaign demanded to know on Wednesday whether President Bush read a key Iraq intelligence assessment, did not read the document himself before voting to give Bush the authority to go to war, aides acknowledged.
Bush apparently didn't read it either, but I'm not sure Kerry wins my vote on the motto, "Vote for me -- I'll start paying attention after I'm elected." This was in the fall of 2002, when Kerry's only job as a candidate was raising money -- which is what all congressmen do all of the time. Plus, it's pretty hypocritical for a legislator to rail about executive branch overreach when he fails to exercise any due diligence when he has an opportunity to constrain said branch. On a related point, Hawkins' 25th reason is also worth checking out. Hmmm... maybe I should get off on the GOP side of the fence -- no wait!! Jesse Walker has a column at Reason online entitled, "Ten Reasons to Fire George W. Bush." His forth reason has weighed heavily on me since day one of the Bush administration:
The culture of secrecy. The Bush administration has nearly doubled the number of classified documents. It has urged agencies, in effect, to refuse as many Freedom of Information Act requests as possible, has invoked executive privilege whenever it can, and has been very free with the redactor's black marker when it does release some information. Obviously, it's impossible to tell how often the data being concealed is genuinely relevant to national security and how often it has more to do with covering a bureaucrat's behind. But there's obviously a lot of ass-covering going on. And even when security is a real issue, all this secrecy doesn't make sense. Earlier this year, the Transportation Security Administration tried to retroactively restrict two pages of public congressional testimony that had revealed how its undercover agents managed to smuggle some guns past screeners. Presumably they were afraid a terrorist would read about it and try the method himself—but it would have made a lot more sense to seek some outsiders' input on how to resolve the putative problem than to try to hide it from our prying eyes. Especially when the information had already been sitting in the public record. The administration has been quick to enforce its code of silence, regularly retaliating against those within its ranks who try to offer an independent perspective on its policies. While the most infamous examples of this involve international affairs, the purest episode may be the case of chief Medicare actuary Richard Foster, who apparently was threatened with dismissal if he told Congress the real projected cost of Bush's Medicare bill. Even if the White House didn't know about the threat—and I strongly suspect that it did—it created the organizational culture that allows such bullying to thrive.
As someone who cares about a good policymaking process as much as a good policymaking outcome -- because the former is a big factor that determines the latter -- the secrecy obsession doesn't sit well with me at all. Such an obession distracts from the suibstance of policy, and also needlessly filters outside feedback, which might be politically frustrating but is nevertheless an essential ingredient to the formulation of good policy. Walker closes his column this way: "Making me root for a sanctimonious statist blowhard like Kerry isn't the worst thing Bush has done to the country. But it's the offense that I take most personally." Walker gives fewer reasons than Hawkins, but the latter has a lot more chaff than wheat. Still on the fence -- but slowly getting more depressed about my choices. UPDATE: John Hawkins posts a response to Walker's points that's worth checking out. And Jonathan Chait's TNR essay about the Bush administration's attitude towards other political actors underscores Walker's point about secrecy. Link via Matthew Yglesias, who thinks I'm undecided because I either want attention or a job from the winning candidate. To be clear -- the reason I'm undecided is because I can't remember an election in my adult lifetime when I've been less enthused with my menu of candidates. There's an old maxim that voting is usually an exercise in choosing the lesser of two evils. I've felt that sentiment in some previous elections, but it was also easy to spot positive qualities that resonated strongly within me. This year I can't muster even the tiniest amount of enthusiasm for any candidate. I'm pretty sure that attitude is not going to earn me a warm place in either candidate's heart. Besides, the Kerry team is already bursting to the gills with policy wonks, and as Mark Kleiman pointed out, the Republicans are probably pissed off at me as well. [What about hallway rumors that you'll be the Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate to face Barrack Obama now that Coach Ditka has passed?--ed. Yeah, that's how I want to spend the next three months -- getting thumped in the polls by the keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention and having to dodge allegations about an unhealthy obsession with Salma Hayek. Not a winning formula for tenure, I'm afraid.]
Dan,
Let me ask you again. Are you indifferent to how the two parties view social issues?
I think there are a lot of pro and cons for both candidates and no party fully represents my views.
But when I see what the GOP tried to do with the Constitutional amendment I shudder to think what the US would be like if they had the legislative majority they want.
To me that's more important than any of the other differences. There are economic conservatives in the Dems (I would argue Clinton was one and Kerry is likley to be one) just like there are economic liberals in the GOP (Bush is one in some respects, including his anti-trade stance and increasing entitlements).
But on social issues the parties are becoming more and more polarized. GOP social liberals are few in number and have only regional influence and no national reach. One could argue the same about social conservatives among Dems but I am not a social conservative.
It's pretty easy for me to decide.
Voting for Bush will annoy the French.
Depending on your perspective, that can sway you one way or the other, but I dare say it's part of many people's calculations.
(I do have other reasons, but this is my most amusing reason)
Wow, Dan, those are quite some reasons - on both sides. Even on the anti-Bush side you managed to pick a relatively obscure one to get excited about - given some of the other nine on the Reason list.
Ah, Dan. I feel your pain.
Kerry an economic conservative?
How absurd. The man who heartily adopted the "Two Americas" BS from the Edwards campaign, the man who quotes "Let America be America again", a poem which celebrates socialism, a man who used to talk about "Benedict Arnold CEOs" until his campaign told him to stuff it, is not an economic conservative.
The marriage amendment was DOA, everyone knew day one it was DOA.
No, the important thing this election is deciding whether to elect a Jimmy Carter / George McGovern foreign policy president in the middle of a war against a dangerous and savage enemy seeking the slaughter of all Americans using the deadliest means necessary.
Another reason to vote against Kerry -- his definition of "honesty".
Jody: Voting for Bush will annoy the French.
Oh, really? I think the French government would be happy to see Bush stay - it means they can continue to use him as a pretext to not help us in Iraq and elsewhere.
If you want to annoy the French, vote for Kerry - they'd have to show their cards and either reveal that they really don't like us (no matter who is President) or change their ways.
Then again, I don't think annoying the French should really play into this decision one way or another...
Yes, Kerry is likely to be much more economically conservative (in the good sense) than Bush. I suspect like Clinton.
If we are in the middle of a war, it is like the war on drugs or war on crime and not at all like the WW2 or the Cold War. If people had a better understanding of statistics they would realize how small the terrosrist risk really is compared to others. And Kerry would do a much better job than Bush. Then again, who wouldn't?
The amendment is dead thanks to Dems. That's why it's important to vote for Dems.
I find it somewhat odd that one would state the number of votes missed by Kerry without some important facts: What is the average number of votes missed? How many of those votes were decided by, say, 1-5 votes? How many votes does the average Member of Congress who is running for President miss? Otherwise, doesn't it all seem irrelevant without that baseline for analysis? Maybe he is worse than average,
Dan:
Suggestion -- you do not have to commit until November. If thinking about this issue depresses you (and I can see the reasons why it would), the reasons to vote for or against both will still be around in November, and there may even be some new ones.
Personally, I do not see how Kerry could do worse than Bush, except maybe on trade. Odds are he will do better
Constitional amendments are very, very difficult to pass. In addition to passing in Congress by a 2/3 majority, they must also pass the majority of state legislatures.
No, there was NEVER any danger of the FMA becoming part of the constitution. In 10 years gay marriage will be legal everywhere.
Look, if you want to elect a Democrat, nominate a reasonable centrist like Clinton, not a far-left wet dream for the Michael Moore types like Kerry. Bush is governing like a centrist -- I wish he were far more conservative about throwing around money.
Look, here's the difference between Kerry and Bush. Yes, Kerry is spending a great deal of time away from his paid job in the Senate to pursue the other job he has undertaken to seek the Presidency. You are entitled to believe that the Senate job is so urgent that he has no excuse pursuing the Presidency while holding it -- I'd disagree, but whatever. The basic fact remains, however, that he works VERY hard in total, as did Clinton before him. There's every reasonable expectation that he would, as President, devote those considerable energies entirely to his Presidency.
Here's the thing about Bush, though: he has, so far as I can make out, NEVER worked hard at ANYTHING. The man appears to have less energy and motivation for real work than just about any person I have ever met. Most certainly he has never worked hard as a President, taking scandalously long vacations -- far far longer than any recent President, and far far longer than any of us would ever take, or feel right about taking.
Bringing up Kerry's "neglect" of his Senatorial job while he runs for Presidency, when the record of Bush's wretched work habits are so well known, and using this "neglect" as a reason to vote for Bush, goes way past bizarre.
So if you had a job, and decided to seek a new job, it would be ok with your boss if you spent 1.5 years missing 80% of your work because you were pursuing a more important job?
And it's wrong for the new employer to look at your work record over the last 1.5 years to get an idea of how you might perform in the new job?
Right. Which country do you live in again?
I don't care that they are difficult to pass. I care that they TRIED. That tells me a lot about the GOP's priorities and views on social issues.
Maybe you are a scoail conservative and would like an amendment like the one that failed. But I don't. I see this exactly like the civil rights struggle amd I fully expect that 30 years from now we we will look at Frist and Bush the today we look at those that opposed civil rights.
If to this I add that Bush is the most protectionist president since Reagan, and maybe more so, and that he has made an utter mess of our budget and has no plans to fix it, then the vote is simple for me.
Kerry is clearly a centrist candidate and only extreme right wingers could see him as a far-left wet dream.
Kerry is hardly a "far left wet dream" - just ask some people on the far left. Indeed, one of the fears some of his supporters have is that he will be pulled to the left by people like Moore putting pressure on him. (Not to say that he is a centrist, but why should the Dem's nominate a centrist to please people who wouldn't vote for him anyway.)
It also strikes me as odd that Republicans are so quick to compare Kerry unfavorably with Clinton when it comes to centrist policies. Unless I was dreaming during the 1990s I seem to remember a lot of Republicans describing Clinton as being one step removed from communism (viz: Rush Limbaugh's "America held hostage" claim.)
So he missed a bunch of BS pork-laden votes. Would he miss Senate votes as President? The horror. Oh, wait. The President isn't a Senator anymore.
One point about the intelligence assessment: Kerry isn't on the intelligence committee. So that could be why.
Illinois is going to go to Kerry by 14% anyways, so send both the idiot power parties a wake-up notice by voting for your only other choice on the Illinois ballot, Michael Badnarik.
The contortions a hawk and fiscal conservative have to go through to justify voting for Kerry are ridiculous. The man is a classic Massachussetts tax and spend liberal that has _no_ record of fiscal 'new democrat' restraint, but it is assume he'll govern that way. Why?
Kerry Projection Psychosis.
The man stood against Reagan during the Cold War, voted against Gulf War 1, ridiculed Grenada and Panama, has been on every side and then some in the current fiasco, but is assumed to be a realist and a prudent hawk. Why?
Kerry Projection Psychosis.
Want a good reason not to tip Kerry's way? How bout this, everything you assume about him but have no evidence in his record to support has to fall the way you hope, or this country is in for a disaster of rare proportion. Think about that particular risk when you find yourself nodding your head along with Kerry's PR flaks extolling his moderate policies.
Not really Mark.
I for one don't know if Kerryb will be a foreign policy hawk. I don't really care in any case and I don't like foreign policy hawks much.
But Kerry's economic voting record plus the people he has surrounded himslef with makes me comfortable that he will be similar to Clinton on econ policy. At least he is a free trader which Bush is not. And it's hard for anyone to be worse than Bush on fiscal issues. Anything will be an improvement.
In the end a president does not have great latitude to change the country. If I am wrong there's not muc Kerry can do in any case, particularly with the GOP in control of Congress.
But I clearly dislike the Southern social conservative mores that the GOP is trying to impose in the nation. That is enough reason to vote for Kerry.
I suppose standing against Reagan, and going to Nicaragua during the Iran-Contra scandal is a bad thing?
I suppose there is a difference between a tax-and-spend liberal and a cut taxes and spend conservative (there isn't, as bush's tax cut is just a tax shift, to the future. Government spending is in fact government taxation)
I also suppose that people who call Kerry a tax-and-spend liberal want to do so without offering evidence.
For those who claim that Kerry is significantly different from Clinton, I'd like to see significant evidence exists that they are different on a number of positions, instead of assertions without evidence being thrown around.
Maybe Kerry is a "tax-and-spend" liberal, but so far his policy suggestions at least seem to have some thought put into them. There is evidence, for example, that marginal tax rates being hiked to 40% instead of 35% for the wealthiest Americans does very little to change their work habits--that taxation does not create large disincentives. The same is true of the minimum wage as it stands now. A small hike in the minimum wage will not create much disemployment. There is evidence for these statements.
Kerry on foreign policy is another question, but doesn't one think, shouldn't one think, that Kerry will have a hawkish bone, if at worst, to prevent political suicide in the coming 4 years? Is there anything wrong with projecting THAT upon him?
"but doesn't one think, shouldn't one think, that Kerry will have a hawkish bone, if at worst, to prevent political suicide in the coming 4 years"
Didnt happen that way for Jimmy Carter.
Here's where i think people are dilluding themselves: I can see how an argument can be made that a president who would love to govern as a full blown liberal could become a successful moderate due to wanting to be reelected and being willing to listen to advisors. Fine, I dont believe Kerry will ultimately behave that way (have you seen his health care proposal btw?) but i understand the thought.
I dont believe for a second that 'good advisers' and listening to polling can turn a squishy dove into a pragmatic hawk. Its an instinct issue. Bush has the instinct that when he gets slapped, he throws a punch. Kerry wants to know why the guy slapped him. Now maybe in many circumstances, Kerry's way is better. But not now. Not when we are at war trying desperately prevent a bunch of lunatic murderers from destroying us. We are indeed at war, and war is not the time to examine motivations and share feelings. We need to keep the pressure on our enemies, we need to disrupt their alliances (Libya, Pakistan, Yemen), we need to take the fight to them and make them fight on our terms. That takes leadership, and listening to focus groups and your advisors by definition isnt leadership. So much for Kerry.
"So if you had a job, and decided to seek a new job, it would be ok with your boss if you spent 1.5 years missing 80% of your work because you were pursuing a more important job?"
Im pretty sure that the boss (the people of MA) would be pretty excited to have their former senator become President of the US. So in that case, the "boss" would probably demand that you do everything you could to get the "new job".
Sometimes I wonder if insipid Republican analogies have led directly to all the ludicrous Bush policies.
You obviously want to vote for John Kerry. Why don't you give up the pretense of going either way. When you complain about this administrations secrecy, and that being a reason you might vote for the dingbat, than why don't you just declare for him?
I fail to understand how a thinking person might vote for John Kerry, but you are welcome to. Once I realized that he was the one who had been spreading lies about American "bad acts" in Viet Nam, it was all over for me. I was in the Navy through the 1970's, and the story about the electric wires and all stuck in my mind.
What would be very enlightening, is if we could read all of Senator Kerry's fitness reports from his active duty service. He has not released the ones that are not complementary, but his commanding officer has spoken about their contents.
Obviously, you are at least center-left, if not on the left, if you would consider voting for John Kerry. It has to be out of emotion, rather than logic and reason. If logic and reason were an issue, you would not be able to vote for him.
praktike writes:
One point about the intelligence assessment: Kerry isn't on the intelligence committee. So that could be why.
Does anyone know whether NIEs are available to all members of Congress? The Reuters article doesn't say that Kerry had the report. (I'm not saying he didn't; I'm just wondering if anyone knows for certain.)
Mark,
I actually have seen Kerry's health plan lauded by a number of serious economists. The plan to cover "catastrophic" medical problems is widely praised as it will shrink premiums for people who CURRENTLY have health insurance. It's serious policy on health insurance, addressing a serious problem in the country.
I don't see how a president could lead without listening to a number of advisors. Isn't leading with out listening to people who can help you something like driving without seeing the road? I think one can be thoughtful and decisive, sensible and a solid leader. Look at Tony Blair. I think the Bush view of leadership is pretty misguided, and that the Blair view of leadership is one that should be aspired to. Anybody who thinks that The War in Iraq was necessarily misguided after the lack of WMD ought to listen to Mr. Blair. Frankly, I think Kerry is closer to Blair than Bush, maybe others disagree.
The end game for government interference in health care is the same end game as government interference in education. High cost, low quality.
Why anyone thinks that the federal government can run health care efficiently and effectively has not been paying attention to the postal service.
Incidentally, Bush didn't resign from his post as governor of Texas until December 21, 2000.
But since Bush took credit for signing a Texas patients' bill of rights that he vigorously opposed and even vetoed (and never signed, but let become law by default when his veto was overruled), I guess that didn't really matter much since Texas seems to have provisions for governing itself. But somehow Dan managed to find hypocrisy in Kerry, not in Bush. Hm... (If you have forgotten about this incident, read the last three paragraphs of http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/02/07/patients/index.html)
Mark,
His healthcare proposal is pretty good. One of the reasons to vote for him.
alkali, I've been wondering that too. I asked some right-wingers at one of the sillier right blogs who were desperately pimping the "Kerry doesn't have time for security briefings!" meme, but they had no answer for me.
"I think the Bush view of leadership is pretty misguided, and that the Blair view of leadership is one that should be aspired to"
Ah, the crux of the issue. The two men come to the same conclusions, based on the same evidence, and execute the same policy.. But Bush is a rube and Blair is the model of leadership. Doesnt making the correct decision at some point come into play over and above being well spoken or having the inteligensia think your smart? Obviously not. Its all about appearance.
"His healthcare proposal is pretty good. One of the reasons to vote for him. "
Well, speaking for the 80% of the country that does have health insurance, im not entirely sure why i should be paying for everyone elses when im busy paying for my own (which i never use).
Why anyone thinks that the federal government can run health care efficiently and effectively has not been paying attention to the postal service.
Actually, the US postal service is the envy of many developed countries -- efficient, timely, and extraordinarily inexpensive.
As for health care, you might want to check your statistics. Even if Kerry were advocating a shift to single-payer, his proposal would be more cost-effective than the current system. The US spends twice as much (public and private cost) per capita on health care as most developed countries and provides considerably less access and coverage (except to the wealthy) than at least Canada, France, and Switzerland. I'm sure there are others, but I don't have the specifics.
Beartums,
Health care in the rest of the developed world is so good that they fly over to America and pay full freight so they can get surgeries, medical procedures, etc. without waiting months or even years. No thanks!
As for the US post office, while it may be a model of efficiency compared to the post office in other countries, it is a model of sclerotization compared to UPS, Fedex, and other competitors here. The price of sending first class mail goes up and up over time (much faster than inflation) and service is poor (waits over 30 minutes are common in my area).
Did Kerry have access to the National Intelligence Estimate in order to read it? I think not.
Now, what did he have access to read? Or is the Senate pretty much in the position of getting its intel from the Executive Branch?
I think the latter is unfortunately the case.
the wesson
Mark,
If you know for certain that you will always have or never need health insurance then I guess Kerry's proposal (or any other proposal) is of no interest to you. But to me it is of great interest.
Senator Bob Dole was made to resign his senate seat when he ran in 1996. He couldn't fully represent his state because of his campaigning. Kerry has been asked to resign by Mitt Romney and others but has refused to resign his seat even though he doesn't show up to vote. I believe he missed casting the key vote to extend unemployement benefits. He should be forced to resign. Edwards, too.
Something to think about: We are going to have to deal with Iran in the very near future somehow. This may be worth looking at:
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=5672810
I prefer supporting the Iranian people since 80% of them hate the mullahs and we know they want a democracy (Bush's more aggressive method) than talking directly to the mullahs, wasting time and them getting a nuke while we fiddle (Kerry' s method).
Since this is a "should I vote for Bush" thread, let me throw my piece in:
Economy -
1. Most likely, Bush will be the only president since Herbert Hoover, not to have created one single job during his term.
2. Bush presided over a turn-around from budget surplus to deficit, also unprecedented in modern
times.
Foreign policy
1. A war launched, for what has turned out to be bogus reasons. When Republican Pat Roberts, head of the Intelligence Commitee, opines that George Bush would not have gone into Iraq had he known that the intelligence was flawed, it is clear that the stated reasons for war, at least, are bogus.
2. The prosecution after the war - in terms of the occupation, that has been absolutely incompetent. Not enough troops. A CPA that cared more about "partisan purity" than competence.
3. An administration "see no evil, hear no evil" permissiveness in terms of "torture-lite", that the United States has (I don't believe) ever seen in its history. (I could be wrong here however. I'm not sure how much torture occured in the turn of the century Phillipine war.)
Now, it could be said for all of the above, that George Bush is "not responsible". It's the recession. It's the CIA. It's a "few bad apples". But nevertheless, this all happened on George Bush's watch. It's his CIA, it's been his economic policy, it was his occupation forces. It was his decision to go to war, ultimately.
I believe you don't re-elect someone with the above record - whether they are responsible for it or not. The inability to create one single job, is alone reason to fire the man.
I've always thought that Bush/Cheney should have gone away this go round - that a new Republican face should have gone for the nomination. Even if George Bush was, from an economic perspective, the wrong man in place at the wrong time, inevitably, unfair or not, he assumes responsibility for economic conditions. Myself, and most of the people I know, don't want to reward the incompetent.
First of all, there is a huge difference between Blair and Bush, even if they came to the same conclusion: Blair admits his own mistakes, and when predicting future action, we might ask that a President be willing to do that! It's not intelligence, it's honesty I am asking for. Going forward in Iraq, I would like a leader to be able to say, "We messed up in Falujah, we won't make those mistakes again." Isn't personal accountability an important trait? Yes, arriving at an answer is important, but the method is important too when predicting future actions. If I solved a math problem correctly using the wrong method, wouldn't my teacher correct my methodology despite my answer?
On health care, Mark, I guess some of us (liberals) feel that we have a moral obligation to help out those 20% (you say 80% as if it's good) who don't have health care, as we have been provided with more fortune with them. I don't want to get into this issue, because it's at the crux of the whole debate, but yes, I do feel that given I was born into a wealthy white family I am lucky to have been born where I am, and am morally obliged to help others less fortunate.
Other people do fly to our country to get health care, because on average we have great health care. Our best health care is far superior to other countries. Of course, those people who can take advantage of it from other countries ARE WEALTHY ENOUGH TO FLY HERE.
Maybe the government isn't efficient. Who says efficiency is the be all and end all. I'm not even advocating public insurance, but if you look at the Kerry plan for catastrophic insurance coverage, it doesn't really make insurance public, and may in fact, increase competition among insurance companies. If companies aren't in the business of trying to not insure, aren't they going to try and make themselves the best insurance plan available? Isn't that what a market is best at?
Mark:
"Bush has the instinct that when he gets slapped, he throws a punch."
And this claim is based on what? The fact that after the nation's capitol was attacked, he punked out and crawled under the farthest table (which turned out to be in NE)? That he once challenged his father (who has 22 years on him) to a fight? That he bravely agreed to protect southern bars in the US rather than waste his time like those posuers in Vietnam?
Matthew:
"Health care in the rest of the developed world is so good that they fly over to America and pay full freight so they can get surgeries, medical procedures, etc. without waiting months or even years."
Does anyone have anything other than anecdotal evidence about this? A link would be appreciated.Also, IIRC, Medicare pays about 2% in admin. costs, or substantially less than the private sector.
Karen:
"I prefer supporting the Iranian people since 80% of them hate the mullahs and we know they want a democracy (Bush's more aggressive method) than talking directly to the mullahs, wasting time and them getting a nuke while we fiddle (Kerry' s method)."
What does this even mean? That under Bush we'll think good thoughts about the Iranian people, but not deal with their government? Or perhaps that we'll invade Iran for the people's good, and they will greet us with candy and flowers?
The Iranian people hate their government . They are always demonstrating and desparately want a democracy. They demonstarted again just within the last week or so. If they had support, they would coup, and I think that helping to spread democracy there would be worth supporting. Getting rid of the crazy mullahs instead of keeping them around until they do get nukes would be a good idea. It would eliminate another terrorism supporting regime.
Oh and here's a funny fact for Mark and Matthew and other similar 'government can't do anything right" types.
We have about 1.2 million jobs less today then when Bush took office. But the situation is even worse if you look just at private sector jobs. We are 1.8 million below.
The only sector that has seen job growth under Bush is the government sector and if it weren't for that growth his record would be even worse.
TheWesson writes:
Did Kerry have access to the National Intelligence Estimate in order to read it? I think not.
Unclear. The NIE was provided to at least some members of Congress shortly before the vote on the war (10/11/2002 was the vote; I can't find out when exactly the NIE was published). I also can't find out whether distribution of the NIE was restricted to the intelligence committees or not.
Karen,
Dole was not forced to resign. He was not even pressured to resign. He did so voluntarily.
Kerry doesn't work for Mitt Romney. He works for the people of MA, and I very much doubt that a majority of them want Kerry to resign.
And while we're at it, Romney himself seems to spend all his time posturing for conservatives to set himself up for some sort of national office. In that sense he campaigns as much as Kerry does.
Salma Hayek – a uniter, not a divider.
Voting for Bush will annoy the French.Posted by Jody
Vote for France and annoy Bush.
Bush is governing like a centrist…Posted by Matthew Cromer
Bus is a centrist in comparison to whom, Mussolini? I have never seen such a blend of corporate interests being so well rewarded by the government in addition to such extremist religious views used to determine government policy.
It was the Republicans that kept Kerry from being able to vote on a veteran issue recently purely out of petty political games.
Bush has the instinct that when he gets slapped, he throws a punch. Kerry wants to know why the guy slapped him. Posted by mark buehner
You probably haven't been paying attention, but it is not good policy to throw a punch back at the wrong people. In fact, it's counter-productive. Kerry wants to know who slapped him first.
Why anyone thinks that the federal government can run health care efficiently and effectively has not been paying attention to the postal service.Posted by Matthew Cromer
Not only is the post office efficient, it is cheaper than alternative shipping. I'll bet you get your bills every month. Also, other government programs run better than any private industry. Look at Social Security and Medicare and compare those to HMO or PPO healthcare.
Getting rid of the crazy mullahs instead of keeping them around until they do get nukes would be a good idea. It would eliminate another terrorism supporting regime. Posted by Karen
You don’t get rid of a regime by threatening to attack, which only makes it easier for an autocratic government to stifle dissent.
Whether Dole was forced to resign or not, he relinquished his seat because he knew he couldn't campaign and still fulfill his role as a senator. Kerry hasn't shown the same responsibility. His attendance record is abyssmal.
If you're looking for a decisive reason to buck Bush, how about the fact that the national Republican party has not dismissed out of hand a proposal from the Texas party to declare the United States a Christian nation.
This on top of the bigotry inherent in Bush's embrace of the FMA.
Bush has the instinct that when he gets slapped, he throws a punch. Kerry wants to know why the guy slapped him.
Problem is, he gets slapped by a guy with a beard off to his right, and his instinct is to punch the guy with a mustache to his left. Without stopping to think what the consequences of punching the wrong person (and hitting a few coworkers with your elbow in the process) might be.Cranky
I'm not even going to give the "Bush hasn't created any jobs" with a response. If you are ignorant enough to think that Presidents create jobs, you don't belong in a voting booth. If you had paid any attention to history over the past 4 years, you would know exactly why the jobs were lost, how it had nothing to do with Bush. I bet you blame the recession that started during the Clinton administration on Bush as well.
Yes the postal service is cheaper at shipping packages than UPS. That's because they subsidize package shipping on the backs of first class mail, where they have a legally-enforced monopoly. The service still sucks, they still have long lines, and the price for the service I HAVE to use is overpriced. And they lose money to boot! That means I have to pay them again every April 15.
For the people who talk about the wonderful efficiencies of Medicare and Social Security, I have nothing to say. These programs are nearly bankrupt Ponzi schemes. Who cares if the efficiency of siphoning off Peter to pay Paul is efficient when the whole absurd system is crashing onto the shoals of demographic reality.
After reading the socialists here, I am saddened by the vast degree of economic illiteracy present by the advocates of high taxation and government control. The history of the world over the past century shows quite convincingly that lower taxes and regulation leads to higher economic growth, ceteris paribus. Those who prefer more statism are welcome to try out countries like Germany and France.
Karen, the Iranian people may hate their government, but they would hate an Iraq-style assault on their country by us even more. In fact, it would probably be the "best" way to unite them behind the mullahs.
Please read Kristof's insightful articles about Iran, in particular "Nuts with Nukes":
Daniel W. Drezner is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.
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