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I have a review of Ian Bremmer's The J Curve in today's Wall Street Journal (alas, subscriber only): Ian Bremmer has a big idea, and the title of his book literally spells it out. He argues in ?The J Curve? that the relationship between ?stability? and ?political and economic openness to the outside world? resembles nothing so much...

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JIM HARRIS

3:58 PM ET

September 1, 2006

The idea has been around for

The idea has been around for awhile and has even been treated with some real rigor. See the last item on this list, dealing with transitions to and from democracy:

http://globalpolicy.gmu.edu/pitf/pitfp5.htm

You're in a healthy minority, along with me, in being unimpressed.

 

DAVID BILLINGTON

5:42 PM ET

September 1, 2006

For those of us who are not

For those of us who are not WSJ subscribers, it would be helpful if you could briefly mention your core objection. The excerpts did not answer the questions I might have about his model and its usefulness.

 

NICK KAUFMAN

7:19 PM ET

September 1, 2006

Jim is right... I remember

Jim is right... I remember old permutations of the idea in the 60s and 70s that talked of an N curve... Whereas instead of openness the variable was economic development... Seymour Martin Lipset comes to mind.

 

ST. JAMES THE LESSER

9:25 PM ET

September 1, 2006

What this is is an example of

What this is is an example of re-packaging of old ideas. I sure hope somewhere along the way Bremmer acknowledges his debt to James Davies, who came up with what was known as "Davies J curve" back when I was an undergrad in the '80s. "Big idea" my arse.

The difference is that Bremmer manages to make the J look like a J, whereas Davies' J looked more like it was lost in space (see http://www.fragilecologies.com/jun27_03.html for a look-see of his graph).

But the underlying idea seems to be the same, and by the way, What's not to like? It did a great job of explaining (back in the early '80s when we never knew if so much of Central America, and parts of Africa and eastern Europe would go capitalist or commie -- or constantly swung from one to the other) the danger of rapidly rising expectations in what were then called Third World countries and the risk of revolution. I don't remember the details but do remember that Davies J curve answered a whole bunch of questions.

See Davies, James C. 1962. "Towards a Theory of Revolution".

 

JAIMITO

6:24 AM ET

September 3, 2006

Nonsense. What transition in

Nonsense. What transition in Nigeria? It is a failed state ab ovo.

 

JAIMITO

6:25 AM ET

September 3, 2006

What transition in Nigeria?

What transition in Nigeria? It is a failed state ab ovo.

 

MATT

11:28 PM ET

September 3, 2006

I don't want to sound

I don't want to sound pompous, but hasn't everyone known that transitions to democracy are often destabilizing and taken advantage upon by ethnic demagouges (ie Yugoslavia). I feel this has been kinda common knowledge in fopo circles for a while now. I guess we can thank Malcolm Gladwell for this. You can't have a big idea until it has a cool graph to describe it! If only transitions to democracy and international grand strategy could be described by New York legalzing abortion or perhaps by a journalist traveling and watching soccer for a year...

 

PASCAL'S BOOKIE

7:53 AM ET

September 4, 2006

This insightful theory has,

This insightful theory has, of course, actually been observed in fancy computer simulations.

I think they called it civ.iv

 

ROB

11:36 PM ET

September 14, 2006

I think Daniel has neatly

I think Daniel has neatly eliminated some of the nuance of Bremmer's book in forming his review. I've had a chance now to take a look at the book, and it's clear that he has ignored the fact that Bremmer allows that the whole curve itself can move upward or downward in terms of stability. So, a country that moves from closed to open after, say, discovering huge oil reserves, would experience less absolute instability than the same country in an alternate universe that lacked the black gold. Then, the change in stability is a relative one for any nation, regardless of its stability in absolute terms.

I think Drezner has it wrong in suggesting that stability could in fact be the independent variable. Openness, as Bremmer _does_ define it includes openness within a nation's own borders. Despite its industrial-strength Cisco routers that keep objectionable content from the larger world off of the Chinese internet, the Chinese government has relatively little control over (anonymous) internal communication.

I was a little suprised to see this negative a review on a book that has been praised by Francis Fukuyama among others. Could this be some form of sour grapes as Bremmer has parlayed his Stanford Ph.D. into a lucrative political consultancy while Drezner toils in relative obscurity (not a knock on Drezner necessarily--his credentials are admirable, but he's probably not pulling down big dollars). Yeah, the concepts may be a little dumbed down for a general audience, but calling the takeaways "banal" smacks of that old green-eyed monster.

 

Daniel W. Drezner is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.

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