Monday, July 28, 2008 - 4:16 AM
[S]pending a lot of time on the internet, as I have since 2002, has rubbed my nose in something that hadn't really bothered me before then: namely just how overwritten so many books and magazine articles are. Seymour Hersh? He's great. You could also cut every one of his pieces by at least 50% and lose exactly nothing. And I'm not picking on Hersh. At a guess, I'd say that two-thirds of the magazine pieces I read could be sliced by nearly a third or more without losing much. That's true of a lot of books too. So: crisper writing, please! One of the upsides of blogging (and the internet in general) is that it allows information to find its natural length: if something only needs a couple of paragraph, that's what it gets. If it needs 10,000 words, it gets that. But there's no need to pad because "we do long form journalism around here," just as there's no need to slash because you only have space for 40 column inches this week. Worriers take note.A few brief thoughts. First, savor the irony here, since Drum's bloggish complaint isn't really be targeted at writers so much as editors. It's the latter's job to make sure a piece reads crisply and cleanly. With some magazines, a tension exists since writers are literally paid by the word. With other magazines, a tension exists because the writer will jealously guard his or her words. And, finally, with other magazines, editors just screw up from time to time. Regardless, it's amusing for a blogger to demand better editing of other writers. Not that Drum's wrong, mind you, but it's just a little strange. In the interest of fairness, perhaps bloggers could set up their own "editing fund" to help pare down Glenn Greenwald or (retroactively) Stephen Den Beste. Second, one mild dissent. In my experience, lengthier essays do not work as well on the web as they do in print. Maybe, like Kevin, it's because of my upbringing reading books and such, but I find there's a limit to how much text I will scan on one page on a computer screen. Scrolling down is not as satisfying as turning a page. I read lengthy online essays the old-fashioned way -- I burn through my toner cartridge and print that sucker. I'm curious if this is simply a failing of mine or if younger Internet-addicted folk feel the same way.
Long essays can work, but you need to end up priming reader expectations.
Look at Tanta's "Compleat UberNerd" series at calculated risk for a good example.
Dan,
24 year old blogger here. I operate similarly when I come across a long article. Part of the reasoning for me is that I work behind a computer all day. Taking a break to read a new Foreign Affairs article, for instance, usually is easier on the eyes to read from printed paper as opposed to a computer screen.
At the ripe old age of 27, having been online since I was, oh, 6: I have to agree. Print long pieces, and print anything you plan on seriously editing. It's just easier that way. There's nothing as painful as scrolling down the first page of a fascinating article in The New Yorker or Atlantic Monthly only to find that there are 14 more to click through. At that point my ink supply will just have to take it like a man.
Crisp writing on the web, sure thing. See Michael Berube, Glenn Greenwald, and Mr Kevin Drum himself for examples of words cascading upon words and yet more words. Surely they are great writers! After all, just count the words.
second sentence after the quote from the times should have the "be" removed...
i agree w/ your sentiment towards reading physical books - i usually print pieces out and still subscribe to the actual form of the magazine so i can hold it and read it on the subway, etc
I had assumed that the New Yorker must pay by the word. I could figure out no other reason for the sort of articles that they publish. Why would any author otherwise want to publish such bloated prose?
You don't seem to be that odd (at least with respect to reading habits). There have been several studies on this topic. See http://www.surl.org/usabilitynews/62/online_reading.asp for details (Caution! Only geeks should read). The study was done four years ago, but the findings seem to still hold true. People will generally read short pieces on the web, but prefer to print or read off-line longer pieces. This is likely to remain the case until screen resolution approaches print. But maybe the Kindle will change us all....
It depends on the *type* of piece. I can get through a 15,000 word piece if it's a feature in a magazine (like the Obama-in-Chicago profile in the New Yorker a couple of weeks ago) or in a newspaper (those 11 page Sunday Magazine articles on the NYT). But I can't generally read academic stuff on the screen, mainly because I invariably have to underline and make notes, and I like doing so with a pen in my hand rather than a mouse.
I'm 25, for the record.
Print. Scrolling is unsatisfying, because it feels as if the computer screen page is infinite, which can be discouraging with lengthier articles.
I'm 22. Though I do read longer articles online I do find it annoying. That said I read a heck of a lot of short articles, news pieces (I read the local paper completely online) and multiple blogs on a daily basis. However, by the 10th page of a New Yorker piece I start to get impatient. Likewise when I'm doing research and need to read the entire article on JSTOR or similar I tend to print it off.
I remember, from years ago, on the intertubes a thingy that simulated page turning. It never caught on.
As an old NASA "Bullet Point" engineer that style has stuck with me. Give me a graph of data and let me figure out what it means or bullet point the highlights of the data.
I like florid writing when well done but only in fiction or political writing - is there a difference?
I'm 20. For me it all depends on format. I'll take a regular book over an e-book any day (likewise for a lengthy pdf from JSTOR). But I prefer reading magazine articles online (even lengthy ones).
Seymour Hersh is a master of lean prose compared to David Halberstam. Talk about unreadable...
Daniel W. Drezner is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.
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