My one thought about Charles Freeman

Wed, 03/11/2009 - 10:47pm

I've received a bunch of e-mail queries asking me what I think of the Charles Freeman affair.  One could argue that Freeman's actual policy positions got him into trouble.  (When a letter to the Wall Street Journal on his behalf allows that "Chas has controversial political views, not all of which we share," it suggests that something is amiss).  One could also argue pretty persuasively that the Israel Lobby flexed its muscle (as Freeman himself argues in his missive to FP's Laura Rozen). 

In the wake of Freeman's withdrawal, I think everyone is vastly overestimating the influence of outside forces and underestimating the idiosyncracies of Freeman in trying to interpret what the hell happened.  I don't mean his positions -- I mean his relative eagerness to get back into the game.  Freeman's statements on the matter suggests that he was not all that eager to re-enter government life: 

"As those who know me are well aware, I have greatly enjoyed life since retiring from government.  Nothing was further from my mind than a return to public service.  When Admiral Blair asked me to chair the NIC I responded that I understood he was “asking me to give my freedom of speech, my leisure, the greater part of my income, subject myself to the mental colonoscopy of a polygraph, and resume a daily commute to a job with long working hours and a daily ration of political abuse.”  I added that I wondered “whether there wasn’t some sort of downside to this offer.” 

"I wasn't so eager to go back to the government, anyway."

Sometimes these statements are boilerplate, but I don't get that sense from Freeman.  

To put it another way -- if Hillary Clinton had been in the same situation as Freeman, there's no way in hell that she withdraws her name. 

Steve Walt claims that, "this incident reinforces my suspicion that the Democratic Party is in fact a party of wimps."  He's got a point, but I'm not sure it's the one he intended to make.  Freeman is just one of a longer list of policy wonks -- Wendy Sherman, Caroline Atkinson, Robert Gallucci, etc. -- who have either declined or changed their minds about high-ranking postings.  While none of these other names were targeted by the Israel Lobby, they all found the opportunity costs of entering goverment service too onerous.  

Question to readers: Has the vetting process in DC become too absurd, or are Obama's subcabinet candidates too thin-skinned? 



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Freeman

Like Icarus the Israelis have overshot - REALLY STUPIDLY - arrogance does it everytime.

There will be a huge blowback over the Freeman debacle - Schumer and that aipac idiot boasting will not go over - what a setup - bravo.

The Obama admin wants to change the tone w/ Iran and ..... that will be done

it is all so pathetic, as if any of this grandstanding MEANS anything or will change the eventual outcome

Read

You clearly didn't even read what Daniel posted. And the premise of your comment is wrong.

Drezner is pointing out that Freeman wasn't all that hot on this position. What's the mystery here?

I couldn't believe it when I

I couldn't believe it when I saw the forms that a friend was filling out when he was just puting his name forward for consideration. They want to know every forum name you've ever had on the internet. I've been on the internet since I was 14. I'm not sure that I could do that (and, quite frankly, I've stuck to the 'clean' sites more so than not..... um....)

But I just find this indicative of how intrusive American politics is in the personal lives of individuals. They are held up to a CRAZY standard of decency. One of the Canadian PM's had a convicted rapist as a son. Everyone knew - no one cared. Papers did not report on it. French Presidents always have a mistress - that's just accepted.

No wonder the (possibly) best and brightest aren't coming forward. I'm not sure who could ever live up to that level of scrutiny.

Canada

I am sorry for Canada. I don't want my country run by the fathers of rapists, nor by those who don't pay their taxes.

As for the vetting process - the people who say that, are pro-Obama. And I get the impression that harping on about it, is done as a political slant.

Absurd

Vetting used to be about making sure someone was qualified, did not have a criminal background, and had no existing conflicts of interests. Now, it is whether or not you share the opinion of the major power brokers in DC. In this case, it was running afoul of the AIPAC crew. But it could just as easily holding the wrong position on medicine, transportation, etc. If you think, like I do, that the Dept. of Education serves no purpose, then becoming a policy advisor on education is not in your future.

Missing the Trees in the Forest

It's fair enough of Dan to point out that there are more than just trees in this particular forest, but what makes a forest is, still, mostly trees. Everyone following this story knows by now who objected to Amb. Freeman's appointment, and why. President Obama and his team faced criticism from American supporters of Israel, and caved in almost instantly.

The vetting process for Presidential appointments is an important issue, but it's peripheral to this controversy. Dan does no one any favors by pretending that Freeman's having fallen afoul of the groups supporting Israel was not the major reason his appointment to chair the NIC was objected to. Of course it isn't the reason the appointment was withdrawn -- Obama's reluctance to court even minor controversy about the people who work for him was. This reluctance was, incidentally, on full display during the Presidential campaign. I had hoped that Obama was then only doing what he thought would get him through the election, but it may be that the things that got him through the election just reflect who he is. I don't advance that as a conclusion, despite the evidence to date, but only as a possibility.

Other alternatives

Are the only two alternatives that the vetting process is "too absurd," or that Obama's nominees are "too thin-skinned"? Isn't it possible that there are still some people, even some people on the left, who are offended by anti-Semitism, even if they aren't Jewish or members of the "Israel Lobby" or the "AIPAC crew"? Isn't it possible that cheering on the totalitarian crushing of dissent does disqualify someone from taking a position in American intelligence? (And doesn't Dennis Blair's inability to read Freeman's statement on Tiananmin Square and recognize that that is exactly what Freeman is doing raise questions about his qualifications to work in American intelligence?)

Hmm

Sir, I think the one issue this highlights is the extent that informal networks have power in Washington, even over security policy. It has been very interesting to follow Greenwald over at Salon mapping the campaign against Freeman. Its true that democrats are wimps, but its also true that the AIPAC folks are bullies and goons. And more than clear that the discussion on the Israel issue will remain the big big elephant in the room that noone will dare challenge for fear of getting branded and smeared.

An interesting thought experiment

An interesting thought experiment:

What if Freeman had said, "The problem in the Middle East is that the Israelis have been too slow to take action, too "reluctant, often to the point of rashness, to resort to the use of force," just like the Chinese government at Tiananmen.

If he had shown himself to be a supporter of "decisive action" by both Israel and China, would people have gone after him just as hard? My guess is that they would have.

If he had shown himself to be

If he had shown himself to be a supporter of "decisive action" by both Israel and China, would people have gone after him just as hard?

If the zionists who opposed him did it because of principled scrutiny of his positions, then perhaps they would have gone after him just as hard if he supported israel.

What do you think? Do you think they go after fellow zionists as hard as they go after people they perceive as antisemites?

How can the vetting process

How can the vetting process be too onerous when the Obama administration has appointed and the Senate has confirmed a tax cheat as head of the IRS?

Rather, it may be that these problems are just evidence of how amoral and corrupt our political class has become.

J Thomas, I think a lot of

J Thomas,

I think a lot of people who went after Freeman weren't zionists. A lot of Americans have memories of Tiananmen as a major tragedy. Many also feel that China's occupation of Tibet is a great injustice. A significant number also think the Saudi rulers are sexist homophobes who make the American religious right look progressive. Freeman loudly disagreed with all of them.

He made a lot of enemies. Some of them are strong supporters of Israel. But many of them don't care much about Israel one way or another.

I think a lot of people who

I think a lot of people who went after Freeman weren't zionists.

RogerSweeny, do you have any names of people who went after Freeman who weren't zionists?

I can imagine there probably were some people like that, but I didn't hear about them during the fight. I only heard about zionists, and I only heard from zionists.

Congratulations

All that the Israeli lobby has achieved here is to demonstrate once again their ability to meddle in our politics in the service of a foreign nation.

This notion, that always draws immediate denials, has been convincingly demonstrated as valid and reenforced by page one coverage by the New York Times and Washington Post, which may have exhibited more courage than Mr. Freeman, I would agree.

He could have better served his country by drawing out the nomination process with a refusal to budge and subjected America's most dangerous lobby group to daily news coverage of his persecution, where he could have repeatedly named them, their executives and other supporters.

Next time, the nation needs an Israel-independent candidate with the grit of Clarence Thomas.

Who knew that dual loyalty to China & Saudi Arabia was ok?

Absolutely. Not enough people on the Saudi payroll in our intelligence agencies. (Apparently that's okay, but Americans lobbying their own government are "meddling" in "your" politics.)

Oh, and there was no "nomination process." It's not a position requiring confirmation; either he's appointed or he isn't.

People who went after Freeman

What about Nancy Pelosi, who did so on China grounds? (http://www.newsweek.com/id/188725).

The key quote is: "But Pelosi's objections reportedly focused on Freeman's ties to China. A well-placed Democratic source said Pelosi, a strong supporter of the Chinese human-rights movement, was incensed about public remarks that Freeman once made that seemed to justify the violent 1989 Chinese government crackdown on democracy protesters at Tiananmen Square. The source, who asked not to be identified, said Pelosi thought Freeman's views were "indefensible" and complained directly to President Obama about his selection."

That does not seem based on Zionism.

Pelosi is a politician.

She waited until it looked pretty certain and then jumped in to cater to her zionist vote, maybe. Pelosi was a trailing indicator.

According to you, a bad politician

She catered to her Zionist vote by talking about China after it was already a done deal?

J Thomas, I think it partly

J Thomas,

I think it partly depends on what you mean by "zionist." Most Americans have a mixed attitude toward Israel. They know Israel is powerful and think it sometimes abuses that power. But they also think the Arabs don't treat Israel fairly. They think "the Palestinians" have a right to a country and that "the Jews" have a right to a country--and wish they would just get together and agree.

If being a zionist means that you think there should be a Jewish country in some of the biblical lands, then most all Americans are zionists.

Fine, Dan, FINE

Just because you're sick and tired of reading about Chas Freeman every day doesn't mean you have to ruin it for the rest of us blowhards with the "it's-a-dead-horse" "he-didn't-want-the-job-anyway" comments.

I'm sorry....

You're right -- blowhard away. Here, I'll even help you. I hereby assert that it would not make a lick of difference to U.S. foreign policy if Chas Freeman was head of the NIC or not. Go!!

I don't know whether Freeman

I don't know whether Freeman would have made any difference to foreign policy. Particularly when I don't know who the alternative will be.

But I'm pretty clear that it makes a difference to foreign policy that the zionist lobby gets to veto him.