Tuesday, May 5, 2009 - 1:35 PM
In FP's sister publication Slate, Fred Kaplan critiques Steve Walt's list of top ten international relations films, as well as my own ("neither of them gives our own film critic, Dana Stevens—or, for that matter, Gene Shalit—the slightest cause for worry.") In an act of sheer bravado, Kaplan then goes on to list 25 other films that he thinks are better than any of either Walt's film or mine.
To which I say -- oh, it is so on now, Kaplan!! You want to throw down on films? Let's throw down!!
[Wouldn't this have been a more succinct reply?--ed. Yeah, I was going for more Jack Nicholson-crazy voice, but that works, sure.]
First of all, what act of hubris could make Kaplan claim that any film on his top-25 list is better than Dr. Strangelove? It's like making a top ten best film list and consciously omitting Citizen Kane. There's no point to it except sheer bloody-mindedness. Dr. Strangelove captures all of the absurdities of the Cold War in one neat package ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"). I didn't elaborate on that point in my original post for the same reason the world doesn't need another essay extolling Orson Welles' masterpiece -- it's an exercise in redundance.
Second, Kaplan reacts to my fave flick, The Lion in Winter, as follows: "Um, OK: a strange choice, especially for the top of the list, but there's a daring quality about it." This leads me to wonder if Kaplan has actually seen the film (and, full disclosure, I haven't seen some of the films on Kaplan's list, such as The Lives of Others. From what I've heard, many of these films would likely have been on my list had I seen them. To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld, however, you make top ten lists with the films you've seen, not the films you wish you've seen). This is a movie about a powerful but aging leader desperate to ensure that the gains his country has achieved under his rule persist after he is gone. To do this, he has to outwit a foreign leader and plenty of domestic (in both senses of the word) adversaries. This movie is filled with strategizing, backroom dealing, bluffing, backstabbing, balacing, bandwagoning, and an waful lot of shouting. In other words, a typical day in world politics.
Third, and more interesting, is defining what makes a movie a movie about international relations. Kaplan nitpicks at Wag the Dog because "it's more about domestic politics than international affairs." He similarly picks on Seven Days in May because it "isn't really about international politics." Part of studying global affairs, however, is investigating the interplay between domestic politics and and international relations. Wag the Dog is about how domestic difficulties can translate into foreign policy escapades (or staged foreign policy escapades). Seven Days in May is clearly about civil-military relations, but on an abstract level it's about the difficulties of implementing international agreements over the resistance of powerful domestic interests.
Now, all this said, I can't deny the quality of some of Kaplan's selections. The moment I posted my list, I started kicking myself because I forgot about The Godfather. It really is the perfect metaphor about international relations -- alternating levels of tension and calm punctuated by occasional bouts of violence.
As for Kaplan's other films, Goodbye, Lenin! is also an inspired choice. Thirteen Days is less inspired -- I could never get past Kevin Costner's atrocious accent. On the other hand, I do have a soft spot for 1974's The Missiles of October.
Finally, a few other films that got omitted from all of our lists but merit further conversation:
1. A Fish Called Wanda (1988): One could argue that the Anglo-American alliance was the most significant relationship for much of the twentieth century. This film, on the cultural differences that exist within the special relationship, is worth multiple viewings. In a perfect world, watch this with a mix of Americans and Brits -- they laugh at different parts.
2. Traffic (2000): The debilitating effects of drugs -- and the drug war -- on both sides of the Rio Grande makes for interesting viewing. Plus, there's a terrific Salma Hayek cameo.
3. Henry V (1944) and Henry V (1989): Alex Massie makes a good point here: "the Olivier and Branagh versions remind one that an individual text may be subject to more than one interpretation. Plus, of course, there's an awful lot of Just War theorising to be done on the back of Henry V."
Dan - You misunderstand. I'm not claiming that any film on my list is better than "Dr. Strangelove." My list consists of films that were not on yours or Walt's - and, as I noted, both of you got that one. And by the way, you're the one who wrote that "The Day After" was in some ways better still. As for Rumsfeld's line, that you go to war with the weapons you've got, just as you've drawn up a list from the films you've seen, you repeat his fallacy - he's the one who started the war; you're the one who decided to do up a list. With all respect (really!), Fred Kaplan
Dan, I did write that your choices of "Dr. Strangelove" and "Casablanca" were "no-brainers," so I thought my endorsement of those films was clear. But I see your point; the bit you quote is, to be charitable, ambiguous. So let me be clear: I regard "Strangelove" as one of the half-dozen best American films, of any type, ever made. So, Susan or Josh, can we get rid of this headline asking what Slate has against "Dr. Strangelove"?...Fred Kaplan
His dissing of The Lion in Winter discredits him.
My Introduction to International Relations professor at our mutual alma mater used to begin every semester by showing the Godfather and Goodfellas. The first he felt showed how unregulated Waltzian international systems could be self-regulating and self-corrective. The second showed that such systems could ... not be, and all hell could break loose.
I always thought it was cool, and it was a genuinely helpful teaching tool for students trying to figure out what all those scholars were arguing about.
Great lines in IR movie history
"The job of security for Queen Elizabeth's visit is gladly undertaken by Police Squad. For no matter how silly the idea of having a queen may be to us, we have an obligation to be gracious and considerate hosts."
You may have seen, but there's a new book out arguing that the Godfather Part I is a metaphor for US foreign policy, called Godfather Doctrine. I think the author was on BHTV today or day before though I haven't watched it yet. What about the following:
1. Remains of the Day
2. Cleopatra
3. Joan of Arc
Also, I agree with you about Kevin Costner's accent, but I still think 13 days did a pretty stellar job of packing the meat of the Cuban Missile Crisis into a feature film that gets in on my short list.
what a shame! among those 35 movies, neither of you guys name the horrifc the hunt for october red and the russia house - both amazing stories in which the cold war serves not only as a background but as the essence of the plot. both star sean connery also. i'm sure they should be ranked first in any list.
Team America World Police!
The tone of Bush 2's foreign policy is summed up perfectly in this movie. The scene in the beginning showing Team America leveling Paris in the name of preventing terrorists from leveling Paris was pure genius.
This movie works on so many levels, its a shame it didn't at least get a mention. Celebrity political culture, the Axis of Evil, Country music nationalism and Cowboy diplomacy (ever listen to the movie's theme song?) all get a healthy dose of comic satire.
If you haven't seen it, watch it. If not for all of the foreign policy references, then at least do it for the puppet sex scene. I mean, seriously dude, puppets.
OMG I almost forgot: LAST EMPEROR OF CHINA
I'd like to second Team America - its a close to a Dr. Strangelove as we got for the Bush years.
I'd also like to point out that you are missing out on The Lives of Others - your first thought upon seeing it will inevitably be "God, why didn't I watch this sooner?"
Hi Dr D
Ok - Dr Kaplan is a great, great writer. Hey - as a Pulitzer Prizer - he dang well better be! And he knows about stereo stuff too (his advice to dial up the subwoofing crossovers at 90 HZ for Fergie Ferg's "London Bridge" is another example of his fully crunk bona fides).
Yet when it comes to events historical and au courant- his IR/Foreign Policy views seem incredibly suspect.
Dr Kaplan's "Condi is a Retard" rant at WaPo, his inappropriate, weak willed handwringing about "Globestomping" at LA Times and his left handed admission that Realpolitik is as incinerated as the nearly 3k innocents who made it to work that horrible day in "Daydream Deceivers: Why 911 Never Mattered and the Idiots Who Took Their Day Gigs Seriously" all seem to indicate his movie choices and critiques may be suspect also.
You forgot the most important movie of our times: Red Dawn!
Daniel W. Drezner is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.
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