Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 8:45 AM
In honor of The Princess Bride, your humble blogger describes someone as "going Vizzini" when they repeatedly use a word in a way that doesn't correspond to how the rest of society would use it.
Today's example is the New York Times story, "Attacks on Detainee Lawyers Split Conservatives." The lead:
A conservative advocacy organization in Washington, Keep America Safe, kicked up a storm last week when it released a video that questioned the loyalty of Justice Department lawyers who worked in the past on behalf of detained terrorism suspects.
But beyond the expected liberal outrage, the tactics of the group, which is run by Liz Cheney, the daughter of the former vice president, have also split the tightly knit world of conservative legal scholars. (emphasis added)
The story repeatedly argues that the conservative legal community is deeply divided on the issue. Now, I understand split as implying that members of this community are lining up on one side or the other. The thing is, I'm not seeing a lot of evidence that anyone in the conservative legal community is really lining up behind Keep America Safe. The Times story by John Schwartz has a quote by John Yoo that kinda sorta supports the ad, but it's really weak tea -- Yoo "said he had not seen the material from Ms. Cheney’s group," according to the story.
Then we get to this section:
A Keep America Safe spokesman responded to a request for comment by passing along links to essays by supporters like Marc A. Thiessen, a columnist for The Washington Post, who wrote on Monday that the detainees did not deserve the same level of representation as criminal defendants.
The lawyers, Mr. Thiessen wrote, “were not doing their constitutional duty to defend unpopular criminal defendants.” He said, “They were using the federal courts as a tool to undermine our military’s ability to keep dangerous enemy combatants off the battlefield in a time of war.”
Thiessen is not a lawyer (he's not the best debater in the world either). I would describe the conservative legal blogososphere as not really supportive of the ad.
Even if we expand our orbit to include other prominent conservatives, it seems pretty clear that beyond Thiessen, Bill Kristol, Michelle Malkin, and the Cheneys, there ain't a lotta conservative love for the attack ad. Over at The Cable, Josh Rogin tried to get a GOP Senator to endorse the ad and failed. I wouldn't characterize Glenn Greenwald as a defender of the right, but even he notes that, "only the hardest-core ideological dead-enders are defending them."
The more interesting way to frame this story would have been to show that professional norms do act as a serious constraint on political behavior. Schwartz quotes David B. Rivkin Jr., co-chairman of the Center for Law and Counterterrorism in exactly this fashion:
“I appreciate the partisan advantage to be gained here,” Mr. Rivkin said, but “it’s not the right way to proceed.” He said he preferred “principled ways for debating where this administration is wrong — there’s no reason to resort to ad hominem attacks.”
So, just to sum up -- the Times got to this story at least a day later than everyone else, and then used an inappropriate frame to describe the situation. There's no conservative legal split -- there's a pretty strong consensus that the Keep America Safe ad crossed the line.
Drezner may want to create the impression that Keep America Safe went over the line, and that there is a conservative consensus against Keep America Safe.
But, in fact, it depends... The consensus is that lawyers should not be punished for representing bad people -- bad people deserve legal representation too.
The question is whether attorneys who specialize in representing terrorists should be working in the Justice Department, especially in departments dealing with terrorist investigations or prosecutions.
It would not make sense to hire mob lawyers to work in the Organized Crime division. Or to hire those who represent drug cartels to work in the drug crime departments. It is not just a question of government policy-making, but also divided loyalties.-- some attorneys have publicly identified themselves as supporting the goals and ambitions of jihadists.
And which of these are now working in the Justice Department?
Honestly, it's pretty obvious that Dan is right about this. It's also interesting that on a question involving the law, all the lawyers appear to be on one side. On the other, there are a Washington Post columnist who used to be a speechwriter in the Bush White House and had no policy responsibilities with respect to either terrorism or detainees; William Kristol, a former Post columnist and speechwriter who had no policy responsibilities of any kind, and the former Vice President's daughter and spokesperson. She actually was given a post in the last administration's State Department, a testament to her father's influence, but had no policy responsibilities related to detainees at Guantanamo. It is at any rate unclear whether she is making the charge that lawyers working for the Justice Department on her own or on behalf of her father, a question that someone should probably try to answer.
Well, is there any point to reading the NYT anyway? Since Daddy's death and the rise of the idiot son, the NYT has become just a liberal rag that could slant even a dogcatcher story. It seems FP is following the same path.
In the domain of timeless justice is it a crime for some attorneys to feel it their moral duty to defend whoever they do seek to defend - Jihadists, 'Made-offs',cheneys, Armenians, Fulds ?
The 'rightness' 'wrongness' issue tends to emerge - to shine a light at - at trial-decisions and consequent Appeals and so on and so forth. The Argument Continues. Whether one opponent temporarily rides higher on the see-saw or the other does. e.g. Roe v. Wade! Loyalties my foot. Loyalty to corruption merely because it 'affects' the 'requiredly good' name of the United States of America? Which name is well known to be sullied so often. Do platitudes and a priori perceptions of the continuing process of creation help? Is Hypocrisy an Absolute Truth in itself?
We the people need to use much much more of what is 'commonsense' to see through the design of the oligarchs of the world represented in our good country by the ONE party with 2 faces since far too long. Each face opposing good sense whenever that emerges from the effort of the other. By the sickening device of partisan-ship ( you listening Josip Broz Tito?) stalling progress, while the common people moan and cringe and wait and bow in their naivete of hope. Subservience to the shenanigans of any miltary-industrial complex is an absurdity. My friends it's time we start thinking that a Directional Change is long due. Such a change needs be set in motion and then achieved by organization and negotiation rather than by force. WAR..... is nothing but crass and blatant terrorism of the highest order. It's MEDALS and glories not-withstanding it is obviously THE model for the multitude of armed conflicts besieging humanity all along.
OUR great grand children deserve to be born into a nicer world than what WE've been inheriting. Let some-one start the process of NEGOTIATION.
Daniel W. Drezner is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.
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