It is now standard operating procedure for commentators to observe how large the gulf of ignorance is between the United States and Iran.  If any American observer tries to analyze Iranian domestic politics, there will be at least three commentators waiting to jump on that analysis as lacking in depth and nuance.

This is all well and good, but after reading Jon Lee Anderson's New Yorker story on his visit to Iran,  I think it's safe to say that other countries suffer from this same problem when they try to understand the United States.  Consider the following: 

Despite Ahmadinejad’s assurances that I was free to interview whomever I liked, a senior government official told me that I should avoid behaving “sneakily” during my stay, illustrating his point with a serpentine movement of his hand. In the end, I was authorized to interview only one other person: Hossein Shariatmadari, an adviser to Khamenei, and the editor-in-chief of Kayhan, the daily newspaper that speaks for Iran’s clerical establishment. Shariatmadari was imprisoned in his twenties for his activities as a militant follower of Ayatollah Khomeini, and was serving a life sentence when the Shah fled Iran, in 1979. When Khomeini took power, he was freed, but the Shah’s torturers left him without any of his original teeth. Though he is sixty-one, his mouth is sunken like a very old man’s.

Shariatmadari is a frank speaker, and his pronouncements are a generally reliable barometer for the opinions of Iran’s Supreme Leader....

The Green Movement, he said, was part of a grand conspiracy—conceived by, among others, Michael Ledeen (a veteran foreign-policy hawk), Richard Haass (the president of the Council on Foreign Relations), Gene Sharp (an authority on nonviolent resistance), and George Soros (the financier and philanthropist)—with the aim of overthrowing Iran’s government. The protests were not against Ahmadinejad, he explained, but “against the whole system.” Fortunately, “the people” had been mobilized and had stopped the conspiracy in its tracks.

Soros again!!  Is there any conspiracy this guy isn't a part of? 

Seriously, Ledeen and Haass loathe each other, and Ledeen and Soros probably loathe each other even more.  None of these guys have any direct influence over Iran policy, and I'm willing to bet that Ledeen and Soros' indirect influence is exactly nil.   

Now, take a moment to imagine a world in which Ledeen, Haass and Soros  are secretly meeting to overthrow the Iranian regime, and I guarantee that the color of the sky in that world is not blue. 

It's incumbent upon the American foreign policy community to develop a better appreciation of the domestic politics of other countries.  But, damn, it would be good if other countries could get a better working knowledge of the U.S. foreign policy community.  It's not like we're all that opaque. 

[Does this matter?--ed.  It does if Iran develops some serious misperceptions about U.S. intentions and capabilities.  Based on the article, the Iranian leadership is well on its way towards achieving that end.]

 
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AND REW

6:30 PM ET

August 10, 2010

Not Surprised.

Iran's leaders like every other dictators in the history are isolated and trapped in their inner circles. If we don't know much about them is because we simply lack experts but their problem is fundamental. If they want to fix this they have to change the whole system.

 

IPENHOS

7:29 PM ET

August 10, 2010

Sneakily

Did he mean snakily?

 

ZATHRAS

9:47 PM ET

August 10, 2010

The quote here refers

The quote here refers primarily to the Green Movement in Iran. It is highly unlikely that the people making decisions in Iran's government labor under any of the delusions expressed here.

What they are trying to do is sell a narrative that their domestic opposition is the product of American actions. If this Shariatmadari person had called the Green Movement the product of a conspiracy hatched by Tim Hudson and Aaron Rodgers, the relevant observation would not be that Hudson and Rodgers don't even play the same sport.

 

UBOAT53

12:11 AM ET

August 11, 2010

Not an isolated problem

This isn't a problem that is limited to Iran, it seems to happen quite regularly. The Russians assumed that Obama's signature meant the START II treaty was finished, utterly ignorant of the fact that the Senate needs to ratify it, and the Europeans remain angry at Obama for not moving forward on climate change, again without realizing that his hands are tied by the actions (or lack thereof) of congress.

The US may be pretty bad at judging the internal mechanics of other countries, but there are times when I think we're better at understanding the rest of the world than they are at understanding us. What a depressing thought that is.

 

GRANT

3:01 PM ET

August 11, 2010

It's hardly surprising, even

It's hardly surprising, even nations that are used to working together still manage to completely misread one another. Of course it just goes to show that the rational actor idea still isn't a reality.

 

LOSGATOSCA

6:30 PM ET

August 11, 2010

People is ignorant everywhere

And while you're at it. Educate the American public about the their own government, foreign policy establishment, and the health care system.

 

COACH HANDBAGS

9:36 AM ET

August 13, 2010

Wonder!

Wonderful words i like!coach outlet

 

MLEDEEN

2:59 AM ET

August 14, 2010

who loathes whom?

it must be great to read minds, but once upon a time i'd have been asked before someone flatly stated that I loathe somebody else. You know, checking...

anyway you're probably half right. i've always gotten along fine with Richard Haass, but as I've written, I find George Soros very creepy. As did "60 Minutes."

that said, if he really wants to support the Iranian opposition--I have no information on that, one way or the other-- I'll work with him. Haass has already said he supports such action.

and to save you the trouble of checking, i certainly do not loathe Gene Sharp.

or you.

 

Daniel W. Drezner is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.

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