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The New York Times' Roger Cohen files an optimistic column today, arguing that predictions of American decline are premature.  I tend to agree with Cohen's sentiment but not his logic because, well, it's God-awful.  Here's the key bits:

Perhaps the most successful U.S. chief executive of the past decade is stepping down this month. Samuel Palmisano of I.B.M. has presided over a remarkable transformation of the technology giant, extracting it from the personal computer business and shifting it toward services and software to power a “Smarter Planet.”

In a fascinating interview with my colleague Steve Lohr, Palmisano said the first of the four questions in his guiding business framework was, “Why would someone spend their money with you — so what is unique about you?” At root, business is still about getting money out of your pocket into mine. By being unsentimental in making I.B.M. unique, Palmisano ensured a lot of money flowed the company’s way.

Profits followed. The stock price surged. Warren Buffett, who knows which way the wind blows, recently acquired a stake of more than 5 percent. I.B.M. has been re-imagined, not least in the way it has shifted from being a U.S. multinational to a global corporation powered by rapid expansion in growth markets like India and China.

The question arises: If an American colossus like I.B.M. can be turned around, can America itself?  (emphasis added)

A small aside:  if Cohen's logic is correct, then the 2012 election is over and everyone should vote for Mitt Romney.  This kind of ruthless turnaround is exactly what Romney did while at Bain.  While his track record can be disputed, there's no doubt that he was willing to be ruthless to increase profits.  So, whether he knows it or not, Cohen is making the argument that a turnaround specialist like Romney would be just the ticket for the United States, transforming America's political economy into a leaner, more efficient engine for progress. 

The thing is -- and this is kind of important -- governments are not corporations.  I cannot stress this enough.  There's the obvious point that in democracies, legislatures tend to impose a more powerful constraint than shareholders, making it that much harder for leaders to execute the policies they think will be the most efficient. 

There's also the deeper point that it's a lot harder for governments to be "unsentimental" when it comes to the provision of public services.  It's a lot harder for states to eliminate the functions that are less efficient.  Frequently, demand for government services emerges  because of the perception that the private sector has fallen down on the job in that area.  This means that the government has been tasked with doing the things that are difficult and unprofitable to do.  It is precisely because these government outputs are often so hard to measure that Newt Gingrich's claims about Six Sigma sound pretty laughable.  Even libertarians who want the government to reduce its operations drastically will acknowledge the political risks and costs of trying to execute this plan. 

To be fair, there are some policy dimensions where this analogy holds up better.  Cohen implicitly argues that America's willingness to jettison costly and inefficient foreign ventures -- cough, Iraq, cough -- is an example of this kind of turnaround strategy.  Fair enough.  Even on foreign policy, however, it's hard to execute this kind of ruthless efficiency.  Israel is prosperous enough to not need the $3 billion it gets in U.S. aid.  Good luck to anyone trying to cut that.  Africa is not a vital strategic areas of interest for the United States, but I suspect AFRICOM isn't going anywhere.  I've been a big fan of getting the United States out of Central Asia, but critics make a fair point when they observe that the last time the United States tried this gambit, Al Qaeda took advantage of it. 

There's been a lot of bragging in the 2012 primary about candidates that have "real world" business experience, and how that translates into an effective ability to govern.  That logic is horses**t.  Being president is a fundamentally different job than being a CEO -- because countries are not corporations. 

 

ATIMOSHENKO

4:01 PM ET

January 10, 2012

Wrong reasons

The main reason why a country is not a corporation is the fact that in a country, citizens are both shareholders and customers (and their identities are fixed).

So talk of profits make no sense in the analogy (the customer-self paying the shareholder-self is like the right hand paying the left), and you cannot abandon one set of customers (e.g. IBM's PC business) for another set (enterprise services).

Countries can be "turned around", and if they stagnate for too long, they do need to be turned around quite drastically. Business experience (and business-derived strategies) however, are entirely irrelevant for accomplishing this.

 

BILL HARSHAW

5:02 PM ET

January 10, 2012

And the Brooks/George Will These

I think there's two threads to the David Brooks/George Will (today's Times and Sunday's Post columns respectively) critique of liberalism: the idea of ineffective government and the idea of government as effective for rent-seekers (i.e. aid to Israel). The idea of comparing government and corporations fits into the first side: improving government by following corporation best practices. I've my doubts, but I think Brooks/Will is a significant challenge to liberalism.

 

TGGP

5:41 PM ET

January 10, 2012

Technically speaking,

Technically speaking, governments ARE corporations (some primitive kingships are more the following of a charismatic personality, but that's the distant past). Government is not a for-profit corporation (nor was Citizens United) and not organized as a joint-stock corporation (although it was colonized in part by them). "Corporation" is merely a body that has legal existence independent of its members.

 

SPOOD

2:36 PM ET

January 11, 2012

Not really

Technically a corporation is a legal person subject to laws concerning their ability to act or be acted upon, but incapable of directly having a say in such laws.

The government on the other hand can literally make its own rules as to how it will be subjected to, or subject to the laws which affect it. Also the whole representation thing for a corporation is far different than that of a government.

Paul Krugman illustrated the most obvious pitfall of the analogy between government & business
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/10/businessmen-and-economics/

...the fact is that running a business is nothing at all like making macro policy. The key point about macroeconomics is the pervasiveness of feedback loops due to the fact that workers are also consumers. No business sells a large fraction of its output to its own workers; even very small countries sell around two-thirds of their output to themselves, because that much is non-tradable services.

This makes a huge difference. A businessman can slash his workforce in half, produce about the same as before, and be considered a big success; an economy that does the same plunges into depression, and ends up not being able to sell its goods. Nothing in business experience prepares one for the paradox of thrift, or even the inflationary impact of increases in the money supply (which is real when the economy isn’t in a liquidity trap.)

 

TGGP

5:09 AM ET

January 12, 2012

"Technically a corporation is

"Technically a corporation is a legal person subject to laws concerning their ability to act or be acted upon, but incapable of directly having a say in such laws."
I have never heard the second part of that definition before. The word "corporation" derives from the latin word for "body", and it just means a body. You can read Nick Szabo on the corporate nature of governments (particularly that of the U.S). Some books discussing the transition from personalized rule to a more corporate state (and how that related to the simultaneous evolution of other corporate forms) are "Law and Revolution" and "Violence and Social Orders".

You are right that government is not a business, and our for-profit firms are not sovereign (though they do make their own internal "law").

 

DRLAKE777

12:00 AM ET

January 11, 2012

It would be nice if some of

It would be nice if some of the MSM commenting on the election would get their heads out of their asses and realize this. I get sick and tired of the BS and crap policy pumped out by businessmen like Rick Snyder and Rick Scott, and shudder to think how much damage Romney would do in the White House.

 

DR. SARDONICUS

2:04 AM ET

January 11, 2012

ipso facto

This article is interesting.

Essentially, governments are more like a person because they have a more active in-built conscience (the electorate and its basic morality and common sense).

So if corporations are “people,” they are actually more like malignant narcissists or psychopaths devoid of conscience and thus a threat to society unless carefully regulated.

 

LFC

3:36 AM ET

January 11, 2012

Yes, but...

I certainly agree with your last paragraph. However, on a quick reading of his column I think Cohen is suggesting not that governments are analogous to corporations but that US corporations by expanding their overseas ops somehow spread a culture of 'openness' around the world, which increases US 'soft power,' which means the US isn't in decline. Or something like that. (He quotes Nye, after all.) Now, this logic may also be off, but it's a little different from the logic you attribute to him in this post.

 

XTIANGODLOKI

6:54 AM ET

January 11, 2012

Companies can lay off people to increase profits

A country cannot simply deport its unproductive citizens to make its budget.

 

SPOOD

2:38 PM ET

January 11, 2012

The irony of the situation

The people Americans most want to deport are also its most productive.

 

ATIMOSHENKO

7:07 AM ET

January 12, 2012

Definitions

@Spood, productivity is best measured by the amount of value generated, not the amount of value captured.

 

ZINO

11:02 PM ET

January 11, 2012

New ground?

I think not... Not sure what I missed here but your article is horses**t, to borrow from your lexicon. Of course governments are not corporations, problem is when they try to play the role of corporations, i.e., when they venture in areas best serviced by corporations. They should stick to areas that are best served by governments, which are as you pointed out generally not profitable for corporations to service... Right now our government is way over extended in areas it has no business being in, and that is the big problem that needs fixing.

 

TINO

1:22 AM ET

January 12, 2012

New playground?

So are you suggesting to let a corporate raider come in to fix by firing everybody, break up the government into small pieces and sell them to the highest bidder?

 

TINO

1:22 AM ET

January 12, 2012

New playground?

So are you suggesting to let a corporate raider come in to fix by firing everybody, break up the government into small pieces and sell them to the highest bidder?

 

ZINO

3:31 AM ET

January 12, 2012

higher ground

No Tino...All I am suggesting is that there are some things better handled by government and some things better handled by business.... Right now the government is growing by leaps and bounds and will eventually suffocate the private sector... We are close to a the point of no return...

 

ATIMOSHENKO

7:06 AM ET

January 12, 2012

The point of no return?

@Zino, the government today is far smaller and weaker relative to big business than it was under, say, Eisenhower.

 

JAN STUHR

10:56 PM ET

January 23, 2012

The key point about

The key point about macroeconomics is the pervasiveness of feedback loops due to the fact that workers are also consumers. No business sells a large fraction of its output to its own workers; even very small countries sell around two-thirds of their output to themselves, because that much is non-tradable services.

 

Daniel W. Drezner is professor of international politics at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University.

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